i think most fans would accept losing some penalty counts but every week, even when Wigan are dominant, it doesn't make sense. Why when a side is well on top and dominant would they concede penalties

NK has provided examples where for example Salford have averaged 9 penalties conceded every week, but against Wigan only conceded 3. Wigan were dominant in that game, so you would expect Salford to concede more, and certainly more than Wigan Similar with the league game v FC earlier in the season, Wigan dominated that game but were on the end of the penalty count


i know i would prefer winning games v penalty counts, but there is no doubt that it can have an influence on the result of a game, especially if every week penalty / set restarts are stacked up against a team. I think in the game v Leeds which we lost it was a stacked penalty count and 3 set restarts (note i'm not saying that is the reason we lost but could have been a contributing factor)

I don't think we have enough players who do that sort of thing tbh but we all see things through different eyes. I don't think that will negatively impact on how many penalties we get though, in fact, it would probably increase them, as it seems to do with players across the league who like to try and play for them. 

I'd like to see some stats on which players gain the most penalties, like you see with players who are fouled most in football. That would give an indication of which types of players are getting them and which aren't and would probably lead to a better understanding of why our count is so low (or probably not going off all the other stats because none of it has stacked up so far). 

https://www.alloutrugbyleague.co.uk/news/astonishing-wigan-warriors-anomaly-simply-1111644

https://www.alloutrugbyleague.co.uk/news/astonishing-wigan-warriors-anomaly-simply-1111644

Come on Stu, with all due respect, I think you're clutching there! How does Marshall looking for penalties (literally every team in the league does this anyway) affect offsides, high tackles, 6 agains etc? 

Even if you say it might affect Marshall himself receiving them, which it shouldn't in any case if the referees are being professional, then how does that explain the other 16 taking the field getting less? It doesn't affect Hull KR when Mikey Lewis milks them. It doesn't affect Leigh when Lam throws himself at players (quite the reverse actually) and, as you say, it doesn't affect Saints when Walmsley tries to milk one at pretty much every play the ball. Why level this just at Wigan and Marshall? 

Phuzzy: https://www.alloutrugbyleague.co.uk/news/astonishing-wigan-warriors-anomaly-simply-1111644 Interesting. So it's not just Wigan fans who've noticed this. I trust we'll get a letter of explanation from Phil Bentham. Or, now that they've been exposed, a letter of resignation. Either would work for me.

Phuzzy: https://www.alloutrugbyleague.co.uk/news/astonishing-wigan-warriors-anomaly-simply-1111644 Interesting. So it's not just Wigan fans who've noticed this. I trust we'll get a letter of explanation from Phil Bentham. Or, now that they've been exposed, a letter of resignation. Either would work for me.

Cruncher: Phuzzy: https://www.alloutrugbyleague.co.uk/news/astonishing-wigan-warriors-anomaly-simply-1111644 Interesting. So it's not just Wigan fans who've noticed this. I trust we'll get a letter of explanation from Phil Bentham. Or, now that they've been exposed, a letter of resignation. Either would work for me. Glad it's getting some eyes on it now and we're hearing some noise. There was no way the club wasn't going to be on top of it, when we as fans can work it out but I'm pleased to hear Peet is asking the question.  It's a shame that by not being a coach who likes to bag refs in the media (Ala Burgess or Lam) you can then lose out and you can only accept so much before you have to question things. The club should ask that we avoid 'Wigan refs' where possible as well because that is also having an impact IMO.

Cruncher: Phuzzy: https://www.alloutrugbyleague.co.uk/news/astonishing-wigan-warriors-anomaly-simply-1111644 Interesting. So it's not just Wigan fans who've noticed this. I trust we'll get a letter of explanation from Phil Bentham. Or, now that they've been exposed, a letter of resignation. Either would work for me. Glad it's getting some eyes on it now and we're hearing some noise. There was no way the club wasn't going to be on top of it, when we as fans can work it out but I'm pleased to hear Peet is asking the question.  It's a shame that by not being a coach who likes to bag refs in the media (Ala Burgess or Lam) you can then lose out and you can only accept so much before you have to question things. The club should ask that we avoid 'Wigan refs' where possible as well because that is also having an impact IMO.